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Rick Sutcliffe
2015-09-04 04:02:10 UTC
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Archive-name: computer-lang/Modula2-faq/part1
Version: 3.0
Last-modified: 2009 06 01
Posting-frequency: Monthly


Modula-2 Frequently Asked Questions

The latest version is available at
http://www.arjay.bc.ca/Modula-2/m2faq.html

It will no longer be posted in its entirety to Usenet.
Christoph Schlegel
2015-09-08 22:28:18 UTC
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Post by Rick Sutcliffe
Archive-name: computer-lang/Modula2-faq/part1
Version: 3.0
Last-modified: 2009 06 01
Posting-frequency: Monthly
Modula-2 Frequently Asked Questions
The latest version is available at
http://www.arjay.bc.ca/Modula-2/m2faq.html
It will no longer be posted in its entirety to Usenet.
Hello,

please adapt the date which is posted monthly to Usenet. People could get the impression, there were no changes or updates since 2009 (while version 2.39 (2014 05 10) is actually the up to date one) -

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Christoph
j***@gmail.com
2015-09-09 07:02:36 UTC
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one could even ask: why repost the same meaningless message every month? some people consider this as spamming. but I know better of course. still, it's the most boring periodic contribution of the list.

I could do without it.
Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-09 15:37:48 UTC
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one could even ask: why repost the same meaningless message every
month? some people consider this as spamming. but I know better of
course. still, it's the most boring periodic contribution of the list.
I could do without it.
If at least it contained the information, and not just the link…

No wonder people don't fancy usenet and prefer the web: everything's on
the web!

If there was exclusive information on usenet, they might be movitated to
come here…
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“The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a
dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to
keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk
Bob Graham
2015-09-10 13:10:30 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
one could even ask: why repost the same meaningless message every
month? some people consider this as spamming. but I know better of
course. still, it's the most boring periodic contribution of the list.
I could do without it.
If at least it contained the information, and not just the link???
Hear, hear! Bring Back The FAQ! :-)
No wonder people don't fancy usenet and prefer the web: everything's on
the web!
If there was exclusive information on usenet, they might be movitated to
come here???
Yes, I agree with those who would prefer the FAQ to be posted here rather
than on the web. Might breathe a litte life into the newsgroup as well.

After all, usenet is mostly free and web hosting is not. When a web site
disappears if archive.org hasn't gotten it then it's gone. Usenet by virtue
of being a distributed system is much more resistant to that although
retention has been a problem on many services as everyone has fled to the
web.

Bob
Nemo
2015-09-30 12:31:18 UTC
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Post by Bob Graham
If at least it contained the information, and not just the link???
Hear, hear! Bring Back The FAQ! :-)
Well, good luck with that. Rick Sutcliffe seems to ignore email
(inlucding corrections and updates).
Gour
2015-09-30 13:25:06 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:31:18 -0400
Post by Nemo
Well, good luck with that. Rick Sutcliffe seems to ignore email
(inlucding corrections and updates).
That's true...I tried to contact him via email being interested for
(his) Modula-2 book, but never got any reply...


Sincerely,
Gour
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One must deliver himself with the help of his mind, and not
degrade himself. The mind is the friend of the conditioned soul,
and his enemy as well.
trijezdci
2015-09-30 15:16:39 UTC
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Post by Gour
Post by Nemo
Well, good luck with that. Rick Sutcliffe seems to ignore email
(inlucding corrections and updates).
That's true...I tried to contact him via email being interested for
(his) Modula-2 book, but never got any reply...
I have mentioned this thread to him and he is aware of the issue. He said he was looking into ways to address what has been discussed in this thread. However, the auto-posting mechanism is not his, it is some usenet thing that is very cumbersome to use and it does not give a lot of options to do stuff differently.

He had changed the postings from entire-content to link-only because there were very frequent issues with the postings before that change. Again these issues were due to the usenet auto-posting mechanism over which he has no control.

There are a number of ways how this could be done more intelligently in principle but none of these ways are supported by the usenet auto-posting mechanism.

Also, please keep in mind that Rick is a senior professor (and I think vice dean) at a university that keeps him busy and his mailbox flooded. It is very hard to attend to all your mail when there is just too much of it. He is not the aloof kind of person, quite the contrary.
Gour
2015-09-30 16:49:33 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
Post by trijezdci
Also, please keep in mind that Rick is a senior professor (and I
think vice dean) at a university that keeps him busy and his mailbox
flooded. It is very hard to attend to all your mail when there is
just too much of it. He is not the aloof kind of person, quite the
contrary.
I'm aware he is busy person, but, otoh, who is not today. :-)

Otoh, I was asking about his field/book and not receiving reply from I
ended up with King's book which seems to be a good one in case I might
use Modula-2 in the future.


Sincerely,
Gour
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yogī [or mystic] when he is fully satisfied by virtue of acquired
knowledge and realization.
Martin Brown
2015-10-02 11:37:53 UTC
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Post by Gour
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 08:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
Post by trijezdci
Also, please keep in mind that Rick is a senior professor (and I
think vice dean) at a university that keeps him busy and his mailbox
flooded. It is very hard to attend to all your mail when there is
just too much of it. He is not the aloof kind of person, quite the
contrary.
I'm aware he is busy person, but, otoh, who is not today. :-)
He used to be very active here in the distant past and generally did
reply to emails. I suspect his extra roles means much less time for M2.
Post by Gour
Otoh, I was asking about his field/book and not receiving reply from I
ended up with King's book which seems to be a good one in case I might
use Modula-2 in the future.
Choose the language for the job you intend to do and make sure it has a
suitable development environment. Also beware of buying into a new
compiler that promises much but crashes horribly and often (anyone else
here remember the early releases of Topspeed's first C compiler??).

These days you tend to be stuck with C/C++ for a lot of library stuff so
you need to be able to read it and modify it whatever other language(s)
you may prefer for other work.

McConnells "Code Complete" is an interesting read wrt to some key
aspects of defensive programming in any language. Would that MS
employees were a bit more diligent in practising what he preaches.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Gour
2015-10-02 19:03:40 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 12:37:53 +0100
Post by Martin Brown
He used to be very active here in the distant past and generally did
reply to emails. I suspect his extra roles means much less time for M2.
If he is working on Modula-2 R10 book, it is forgiven. :-)
Post by Martin Brown
Choose the language for the job you intend to do and make sure it has
a suitable development environment.
FPC/Lazarus is the best what I've found so far...


Sincerely,
Gour
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Even the intelligent are bewildered in determining what is action
and what is inaction. Now I shall explain to you what action is,
knowing which you shall be liberated from all misfortune.
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